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08 lis 2019, 22:57

There's no spindle on command in Your MDI program. Add extra line with M3 or M4. Usually u move for instance Z100 and M3.

Witk PLC errors. Check every fuse in supply cabinet. If it's Similar to what I saw there are quite much of ceramic fuses that can get messy.

Yea, I was thinking about testing the tool holder, and a tool change in this procedure, but not sure if it's correct for that either.

I'v tried going into "M" and doing a M03 (and M04) and then push the "green" button, but then also I get this *start* symbol - and spindle doesn't run, I can try in MDI modus tomorrow, thanks for the tip, and I'l def go thru the Fuses.......seen some of the PLC error show up if hydraulic pump haven't been started etc, so fuses makes sense....

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08 lis 2019, 23:02

Oh and chceck the spindle speed potentiometer. If it is set to 0 the spindle will run with 0% of desired speedy.

yea, will check that too - I had a periode of wondering why the x/y/z axis didn't move, as they had moved the day before....haha, eventually turned the poteniometer

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08 lis 2019, 22:49

Having a tool change is always nice

About reverted axis. Most of the machines in that style comes in straight line from horizontal machines but only have added a vertical head. Most of them even have horizontal spindle nose under head. That's why there are some machines that have horizontal axis setup. To be less technical - if your table goes UP / DOWN in Z axis = u have vertical setup. If your table goes UP / DOWN in Y axis = you have horizontal setup. Nothing wrong with that - just have to think twice what you do I'm used to vertical and sometimes i'm using my friends MAHO with horizontal setup = few times near crashed cause of inverted programming

About HH i'm not able to help you Only thing that i know about HH is that it exists

Ahh alrigh, yea if I'm not mistaken this one goes up/down in the Z-axis so I guess that makes it a "normal axis machine"

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btw, when trying to get spindle running in MDI mode I get this "*" sign - any tips on what that might mean in heidenhain ? - and spindle doesn't run, if I remember correctly there where no error messages at that point.....

And the mdi "Program" I tried
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Looks like it means "control in operation", but not sure what that means....nothing happens

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08 lis 2019, 18:53

Easiest way to find coolant reservoir is to follow drain hose from table or table enclosure. It can be in the lower rear part of base or a stand alone box...

Does it have a tool magazine or you switch tools by hand? And does it have normal axis or reverted?

Not sure what happened - my old message got overwritten, but yea it got a tool holder, and not sure about difference betweeen normal/revert axis (Nooob..... )

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08 lis 2019, 11:59

Very nice and rigid machine but has one minus as most of the older machines in same style than i don't like. Movement in Z axis is made by table. That's no problem if you're doing small things. Problem starts when you put 500kg or more of material at the table... Vertical screw and servo is having hard time than... Probably you could compensate that by counterweight but it would need to be adjusted every time you switch setup on table to match current weight...

Other than that one small issue they are very nice work horses

Yea can imagine that might be a problem - if I eventually get it back up and running it will be for smaller stuff I recon, it will be more of a "hobby", as I want to learn CNC, and this one came up for cheap locally so took a chance on it (and turn it into a "project"... )

Still seem to give me a few PLC errors, so haven't really been able to make it spin up the spindle, or change tool, but the PLC errors that where initial there (and the reason it was sold) I'v sorted out it seem, so hopefully only some adjustments/settings that's causing it to not do much (I can run all axis etc, so can pass ref.points on initial startup )

btw, any idea where it might store coolant ? (I haven't opened all the blinding of the housing so haven't been able to follow the coolant hose) - or do one have to hook up externally ?. (normally).

Thanks a lot

The machine is a TOS FGSQ 32 CNC B (so probably should be under "industrial machines"), but....

A manual would be of great interest if anyone have, I have for the Heidenhain controller, but not for the machine itself.....


Here is a picture of the same type of machine (taken from the net, so I saw this had another controller attached)

From a TOS CNC mill (TOS Olomouc) - anyone able to give a description of the marked buttons..as I'm missing the manual for this machine.....